# How much less delta-v would it take to reach the Sun using Venus and Earth flyby's compared to direct?
Tags: orbital-mechanics, physics, mathematics, flyby
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- Asked by: user12102
- Asked: 2019-09-07
- Site: space
## Question
@TomSpilker showed that the minimum delta-v to go from Earth orbit into the Sun is about 20.89 km/s. That's going from 200 km LEO to "perihelion at the sun's photosphere (guaranteed complete entry!)" starting from Earth's aphelion (lowest orbital velocity).
But that's with a direct ellipse, not using Venus or Earth flybys.
Is it possible to estimate, perhaps by looking at Parker Solar Probe's several flyby's and its delta-v budget how much less it would take to reach the Sun's photosphere cleverly using flybys of Venus and Earth?
## Answers
### Answer by SE - stop firing the good guys (score: 4)
The potential of fly-by ping pong is pretty much unlimited, provided you have enough time to your disposal.
Given an initial transfer with a perihelion slightly lower than the orbit of Venus, a Venus flyby can increase the aphelion to a bit further out than the Earth's orbit.
On the following Earth flyby,