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Quantum gravity literature and theoretical physics discussions suggest that spacetime might lack fundamental continuity, but definitive physical evidence justifying spacetime discontinuity remains an active area of investigation without full empirical establishment.
We explore the issue of spacetime emergence in quantum gravity by articulating several levels at which this can be intended. These levels correspond to the reconstruction moves that are needed to recover the classical and continuum notion of space and time, which are progressively lost in a progressively deeper sense in the more fundamental quantum gravity description. They can also be understood as successive steps in a process of widening of the perspective, revealing new details and new questions at each step. Each level carries indeed new technical issues and opportunities, and raises new conceptual issues. This deepens the scope of the debate on the nature of spacetime, both philosophically and physically.
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of dubious physical significance, since the dependence of ph ysical quantities on individual points in
the differentiable manifold is removed by the request for diffeo morphism invariance [28], the gauge
symmetry of GR.
Diffeomorphism invariance is indeed a key mathematical ingre dient at the root of many of the
conceptual difficulties about the nature of space and time in c lassical GR, and which have to do
with the variety of possible identifications hinted at above [29, 30].
A more physical way of characterizing these difficulties is to say that they arise from the fact
that every ingredient of the theory entering the definition o f ‘spacetime’, matter and metric fields,
is dynamical and that the dynamics itself, and its generic solutions, do n ot select any preferred time
or space direction. On the contrary, the theory admits an infi nity of equally valid local notions of
time and space (that could associated to specific coordinate frames, but without attributing to the
latter any special physical significance).
In this sense, one can already speak of a disappearance of spa ce and time in classical relativistic
gravitational theory [31]. It is bypassed, in some sense, by the use of special solutions of the
dynamics, which possess global spacetime symmetries and th us select special spacetime directions.
In fact, much of gravitational physics rests on the use of suc h solutions.
At the conceptual level, this is already a big challenge to ou r customary conceptions of space
and time, and raise many subtle issues, which form the subjec t of a vast literature in the philosophy
of spacetime [32–34].
Notice that we are not distinguishing, here, between Lagran gian or Hamiltonian formulations
of the theory, even though they are not strictly speaking equ ivalent (diffeomorphism symmetry is
implemented in subtly different ways in the two settings, and a canonical Hamiltonian formulation
requires global hyperbolicity, thus it is a priori less gene ral than the covariant, Lagrangian one).
We are also not distinguishing between space and time, even t hough the absence of a preferred
notion of time is especially troublesome for our usual under standing of physical dynamics and of
physics more generally. These special difficulties are the ‘p roblem of time’in classical GR. These
distinctions are not crucial to the main points we want to mak e in this contribution.
At the quantum level, assuming a standard formulation of qua ntum mechanics, the situation is
much the same, just a little worse. The kinematics has states forming a Hilbert space which encode
the geometry (intrinsic and extrinsic) of spatial submanif olds (possibly forming the boundaries
of the differentiable manifold) and the values and momenta of m atter fields on them, and the
possible histories of the same states, thus the spacetime me tric and the matter fields for the whole
manifold. The dynamics is encoded in some operator equation , taking necessarily the form of
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A scenario of the type sketched above, we believe, will requi re serious reflections not only on
the nature of space and time, but also on the renormalization group when applied to quantum
gravity and on a covariant, spacetime-free understanding o f statistical mechanics. Even more
clearly, it may have profound implications on the philosoph y of cosmology, that will be subject to
a broadening of scope and perspective in parallel with the on e we are suggesting for the philosophy
of quantum gravity.
In the end, these many new conceptual issues that arise in thi s scenario are the reason to
associate to it a new level of spacetime disappearance and em ergence.
V. AN ANALOGY: BOSE-EINSTEIN CONDENSA TES
Before concluding, we would like to offer a physical analogy of the situation outlined for quantum
gravity, and of the various levels of ‘emergence’we illustr ated in this contribution. We hope this
will clarify further the conceptual framework we have in min d. For more details on this example,
see [88]
Consider the hydrodynamic description of a fluid, with the ma in dynamical variables being
the fluid density and velocity, and interesting observables being the total momentum and energy,
vorticity, circulation of vortex excitations, viscosity, etc, which are functions of them. On top of the
global configurations of the fluid, one has propagating excit ations over them corresponding to sound
waves with their own characteristic dispersion relation. N otice that one can also consider extended
versions of standard fluid hydrodynamics, including new ter ms functions of the same density and
velocity fields (e.g. gradient terms); this is the case, for e xample, of superfluid hydrodynamics.
In our analogy, standard hydrodynamics would be the counter part of GR, with spatiotemporal,
geometric observables (volumes, areas, distances, time in tervals, curvature, etc) corresponding to
various hydrodynamic observables, functions of the basic fi elds (in GR, the metric or metric and
connection etc, plus matter fields, depending on the specific formulation of classical gravity one
uses).
From this classical theory, one can move to the quantum regim e. One could start by simply
quantizing the classical theory. The resulting quantum the ory is perturbatively non-renormalizable
as a quantization of sound waves
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# On the Possibility of Experimental Detection of the Discreteness of Time
- MCMarios Christodoulou 1*
- CRCarlo Rovelli 2,3,4
1. Department of Computer Science, The University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China
2. CPT, Aix Marseille Univ, Université de Toulon, CNRS, Marseille, France
3. Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, Waterloo, ON, Canada
4. The Rotman Institute of Philosophy, London, ON, Canada
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