External pressure is used to calculate the work done by a gas during expansion.
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Reference works and thermodynamics Q&A sources establish that the mechanical work done by a gas during expansion is calculated using the external pressure acting against the system.
ideal gas. Adiabatic compression occurs when the pressure of a gas is increased by work done on it by its surroundings, e.g., a piston compressing a gas contained
An adiabatic process (adiabatic from Ancient Greek ἀδιάβατος (adiábatos) 'impassable') is a type of thermodynamic process that occurs without transferring heat between the thermodynamic system and its environment. Unlike an isothermal process, an adiabatic process transfers energy to the surroundings only as work and/or mass flow. As a key concept in thermodynamics, the adiabatic process supports
For an adiabatic free expansion of an ideal gas, the gas is contained in an insulated container and then allowed to expand in a vacuum. Because there is no external pressure for the gas to expand against, the work done by or on the system is zero. Since this process does not involve any heat transfer or work, the first law of thermodynamics then implies that the net internal energy change of the system is zero. For an ideal gas, the temperature remains constant because the internal energy only depends on temperature in that case. Since at constant temperature, the entropy is proportional to the volume, the entropy increases in this case, therefore this process is irreversible.
weight of an object's mass (m) on the piston. Temperature is held constant, therefore the change in energy is zero (U=0). So, the heat absorbed by the gas equals the work done by the ideal gas on its surroundings. Enthalpy change is also equal to zero because the change in energy zero and the pressure and volume is constant. Isothermal Irreversible/Reversible process
The graphs clearly show work done (area under the curve) is greater in a reversible process. Adiabatic Expansions
Adiabatic means when no heat exchange occurs during expansion between system and surrounding and the temperature is no longer held constant. Reversible Adiabatic Expansion
This equation shows the relationship between PV and is useful only when it applies to ideal gas and reversible adiabatic change. The equation is very similar to Boyle's law except it has exponent (gamma) due to change in temperature. The work done by an adiabatic reversible process is given by the following equation:
where T2 is less than T1. The internal energy of the system decreases as the gas expands. The work can be calculated in two ways because the Internal energy (U) does not depend on path.
# Why do we count external pressure to calculate work done by gas instead of using internal pressure?
- Tags: thermodynamics, pressure, work, gas
- Score: 3
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- Answers: 1
- Asked by: Lia pham (37 rep)
- Asked on: Oct 13, 2023
- Last active: Oct 13, 2023
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## Question
Does internal pressure remain constant while doing work on surrounding or we ignore it? And when work is done on system we still count external pressure
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## Accepted Answer — Score: 3
- By: Matt Hanson (4,138 rep)
- Answered on: Oct 13, 2023
Work is defined with respect to the external pressure because it is the changes in external conditions that precipitate the changes to the internal state of the system. When we calculate work, we want to know how much work is done on or by some system of interest, so this convention is sensible. To your question about the internal pressure, typically it changes smoothly as the system undergoes whatever process we are talking about. For instance, if the pressure inside of a chamber under a piston is greater than the external (essentially constant) atmospheric pressure, if we allow the piston to move then it will expand the volume of t
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